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. >>> welcome to "the closing bell." we're at the new york stock exchange. it's as the fiscal cliff turns here on wall street yet again. we're less than an hour away from completing what could wind up being a dramatic comeback on wall street. >> it is feeling like a soap opera. i'm michelle caruso-cabrera. maria bartiromo will be back tomorrow. the dow had been down more than 100 points earlier in the session but came storming back after encouraging fiscal cliff talk from washington. listen. >> it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. but i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. >> wow. that's optimism. there you go. right now the dow jones industrial average is higher by 72 points. 12,950. the nasdaq is also in positive territory by about 11 points. the s&p 500, and you can see the same intraday pattern all three sessions,
on unions trying to block spending cuts and the fiscal cliff deal while making sure the rich pay more. jeff flock with union back protests at wal-mart stores and diana on the dirty little secret those unions are not changing wal-mart workers. first to rich and some in washington, d.c.. how unions trying to persuade democrats to avoid spending cuts? >> with a significant lobbying effort on capitol hill and a new advertising campaign targeted at democratic and republican lawmakers in pennsylvania, virginia and missouri. the basic message is don't touch entitlements in the fiscal cliff tops we're having on capitol hill. honesty and one of the union says elected officials from both parties need to listen to the will of the voters and focus on rebuilding the middle class and strengthening our economy by investing in jobs, not cuts. as for the effectiveness of this campaign one conservative says this type of pressure from unions is nothing new. >> the fact that they are publicly saying what they have been privately saying helps the american people understand where obama's in trend and comes from
the fiscal cliff scheduled for tomorrow, but, guess what? the president will not be attending it, secretary tim geithner will. regardless of the no-show tomorrow, president obama is hopeful to get a deal done by christmas, not inspiring confidence for pushing small businesses as key democratic leaders refuse to put entitlements on the table. for more on all of this, republican congressman langford of oklahoma. congressman, welcome back, always great to have you here. >> thank you very much. gerri: president with strong words for congress. here's what he had to say. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next wreer. right now, as we speak, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. gerri: there's the president calling out congress. what do you have to say, congressman? >> yeah, here we go in the middle of this. the house passed all our tax things in april. we passed the sequestering documents in may. we waited for the senate since may to reciprocate on that. the
lawmakers to get a deal done and avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> next stop, the white house later this afternoon. good afternoon, everybody. i'm tyler mathisen. it is a big day in this national discussion about how washington can avoid the fiscal cliff. some of the senators in the center of the debate will be stopping by. we may hear from some ceos this hour. we do expect to hear from some of them at a press conference later this hour. the president, by the way, weighed in on the debate this morning as well. sue, a busy day down here in washington. >> it sure is, ty. indeed it is here as well. we are going to be joined by a very special guest, noted author and investor nassem taleb. after dropping more than 100 points in the early going, the dow sittingality the highs of the day. it's been an extremely volatile trading session, we're up just about 80 points or so. bob pisani joins me from the floor of the nyse. bob, they're parsing every word coming out of capitol hill and house speaker boehner giving a boost to the markets a bit ago. >> he did. he is a little more optimistic. but we're being bl
a dark fiscal cliff. a new government report warning is an increase in texa taxes wod crush the middle-class spending. the dow down 70 points. it seems republicans are changing their tune on taxes. i don't know. lou dobbs with us as more congressional leaders break from the antitax pledge. and two years after the signs in cairo they look the same. mohamed morsi moves for absolute power sparking violent clashes in the streets between his supporters and opponents. but first, it is time to check stocks as would every 15 minutes, let's head to the floor of the new york stock exchange. nicole, the market is down and out on the fiscal cliff. i'm afraid. nicole: there's a lot going on on wall street. selling across the board, down 72-point at the lowest .12900, so about 40 points off of the earlier lows, however we are seeing selling from sector to sector with its banks or drugs or retail. the areas that have been pretty good our technology, semi conductors holding on, utilities giving it a go after selling off on concerns of the fiscal cliff of his utilities is a group that paid h
in the fiscal cliff tops we're having on capitol hill. honesty and one of the union says elected officials from both parties need to listen to the will of the voters and focus on rebuilding the middle class and strengthening our economy by investing in jobs, not cuts. as for the effectiveness of this campaign one conservative says this type of pressure from unions is nothing new. >> the fact that they are publicly saying what they have been privately saying helps the american people undetand where ama's in trend and comes from but nothing has changed. >> the issue i in the fiscal cliff discussion democrats appear willing to put entitlements and spending on the table. republicans saying they're willing to do tax revenue and that could be or would be the key to any agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff and get the country's books back in order. gerri: you will be covering this for a long time. thanks for that. this black frida wal-mart shoppers think protests, it is not a superstore workers on the picket line. jeff flock joins us with more. ff: a few of them but the majority were not wal-mart worke
. and more an half sing the uncertainty around the fiscal cliff will impact their spending and job creators are cutting back on spending and a bad deal for the economy? well, let's ask. ben stein, dagen mcdowell, charlie gasperino and gary k. want to start with you. bad deal for all of us? >> of course, look, business investment was already down last quarter over 1%, and the word uncertainty just pervades the air and its business, its consumer, how about philanthropic organizations don't no what kind of write-offs for charity and the worst the outcome is probably going to be more, and taxes are going to go up and of course there will be no spending cuts. >> and ben, it does sound ominous, even if you're not someone who reads the wall street journal, the fiscal cliff, fiscal cliff, it could be the-- i don't know intimidation factor, it could actually be worse than going over the cliff. >> i think that's a brilliant point, charles. if we went over the cliff for a few months the impact would not be enormous, and uncertainty is a bad word and fear is a really, really bad words and these are the
and their respective parties in debating and discussing solutions to the fiscal cliff. president obama organizing a campaign to persuade voters that his plans for higher taxes on the wealthy are the right path forward. leading republicans creating consternation within their own party does they reversed themselves from taxes and seemingly the president's ideas of increases, a growing number on the right rejecting their no new taxes pledges and instead are now claiming the grover norquist is the real problem in washington d.c. fox digital politics center is here with us tonight as is the daily caller stalker carlson. egyptian leader declaring new powers for himself, claiming he won't be just another dictator. just a week ago praised by the obama administration for brokering a ceasefire in gaza, and now the white house is silent on the more -- coupe. middle east expert professor hoover institute senior fellow "wall street journal" as columnist among our guests here tonight. we begin with the president's broad based strategy to conduct our right class warfare against the republican party on the issue
less conversation and more on the fiscal cliff. that is my "2 cents more," and that's it for tonight. thank you for joining us. have a great night. we'll see you here tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. more than 200-point swing in the stock market today, but at the end of the days of volatile session the dow jones industrial had a triple digits gain. anxious investors worldwide, however, have been selling stock on concerns about the impending peril of the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama for his part seems utterly unimpressed by market volatility and the consequences of failure to resolve the issues of tax hikes and spending cuts that go into affect the first of the year. as the markets were falling in the first hour of trading this morning, house speaker john maynard stood up and offered support to investors and leaders for the market. stocks stabilized and then began climbing on the speaker's expression of optimism that a deal is within reach. we will take all of that up and more here tonight with bedford open geyser ceo harvey eisen and republicans who have put tax
all of this. ben bernanke has strong words for lawmakers and the president fixing the fiscal cliff now or else. details next. gerri: fed chief ben bernanke gettingiving a big speech in ne gerri: federal reserve chairman ben bernanke speaking today at the new york economic club in new york city, and his message to lawwakers in washington, fix the fiscal cliff and don't kick the can down the road. the commons the fed chief has everybody talking. john, always great to see you. i want you to respond to something the fed chairman had to say this afternoon. listen to this. >>n a worst-case scenario where the economy goes off the broad fiscal cliff, the largest fiscal cliff, don't think the fed has the tools to offset that. gerri: don't look at me, can do anything if you can't avoid the fiscal cliff. what did you make of that? speak of the war is quite complicit dumb explicit. if the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff, the jump in taxes woul likely quickly push the u.s. economy into a recession and there is nothing the fed cado to prevent that from happening. gei: it seems to have unloaded every
or another, that's about all i hear on this fiscal cliff business, and you know what? what about spending cuts which is the true source of the deficit problem along with anemic economic growth. and here's one. we just got confirmation that the latest fiscal numbers from the treasury department show the federal government ran up more red ink in october than it did the year before, and guess what? spending went up double digits from the year before. what a surprise. but the white house got one thing right today. it released a study showing that a massive year-end tax hike would kill consumer spending by $200 billion, right. so let's not raise taxes. and in addition to all of this, the joint chiefs of staff is apparently drawing up plans to keep 10,000 u.s. troops in afghanistan past the 2014 deadline. this break a president obama promise, but some promises are made to be broken, and i think this is probably a good move. but first up congress back at work tonight after the holiday recess with now just 35 days to go. are we any closer to a tax and fiscal cliff fix? cnbc's own chief washington
. the money they're paying out to shareholders ahead of the fiscal cliff wall to get the dividend ahead of the higher tax rate, so costco joins many come over 100 companies that have done much of the same. paying out dividends so you can pay less taxes. melissa: thank you so much. lori: so thoughtful of the company. president obama invited middle-class americans to the white house to showcase those would be most affected a certain tax cuts are not extended. peter barnes live at the white house. >> 85 middle-class taxpayers joining the president at this event part of a pr push to drive them to extend tax cuts for middle-class taxpayers let them expire for wealthier taxpayers. take a listen. >> optimistically i don't think we will get it done tomorrow. but if everybody here goes out of their way to make their voices heard and spread the word to your friends and families and coworkers and neighbors, i am thoughtfudoubtful that we will t done. >> the president meeting with 14 ceos, second such meeting in the last two weeks including the ceos of yahoo, merck, coca-cola and at&t. and lloyd gl
a forecast for cyber monday sales. we of course continue to watch the fiscal cliff count down. lawmakers have been trying to convince the naub they are willing to compromise. they return to capitol hill today. >> everything should be on the table. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. >> a group of corporate executives are calling on congress to rise above partisan politics to try to find some sort of a solution. we have a lot to talk about with gleg brown and we'll start that in just a moment, but first over to andrew. >>> finance ministers are trying to unfreeze the second bailout package for greece, but first they must agree on how to cut massive debt to a more sustainable level. we'll head to london for details on that. and playing down a deal talk, tom joyce saying his country's currently if talks with at least two firms on a possible sale of its largest business unit. but would only pursue a deal if it created value to shareholders and clients. and mexico's anti-corruption body says it has found no irregularities in its probe of permits given to walmart. two audits still un
of the main drivers behind recent stock moves is the uncertainty about the fiscal cliff. but buckle up, our next two guests say the action could soon get even more interesting. and later today, thousands are going to gather in manhattan's rockefeller center for the lighting of the christmas tree, making any visit to manhattan from here on out basically impossible at night. the annual spectacle has become a world famous symbol of the holidays. i went last night and it was okay. >> i went two nights ago. >> from now on -- >> i couldn't believe two nights ago, there was no traffic. >> it's over now. over. >> this year's tree came from flanders after surviving the strong winds of hurricane sandy. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investm
about good feelings. good feelings over possible deal to avert the fiscal cliff. republicans seem to be breaking ranks with the hardliners. talk about maybe raising revenues if the democrats will be willing to do meaningful entitlement reform. that positive tone, the rising above, helped move up the futures right into the bell. who wanted to be short ahead of a weekend deal? what a difference a day makes. this morning we come in, what are they chattering about? greece. greece. can you believe greece? it's standing in the way of a european deal again. this small country with no grip on its finances has europe hostage all over again. without a deal, every major bourse in europe came down last night. we didn't get a sunday night easing from china. worried that the recent positive data can't be maintained without more interest rate cuts. you know what, we've been conditioned to believe that weaker economic data means more stimulus, which leads to higher stock prices here. what happens if the news isn't so good that china becomes a big importer of our goods again but isn't so bad the c
on the fiscal cliff next year and i see the housing market getting better around better and i think that's a positive. >> rick santelli, it wasn't just stocks rallying today. here in the u.s., europe had its best week of the year this week. the euro is at a three-week high. gold was very strong today. what's the market telling us right now? >> i think the market's telling us that there's a lot of bargain hunting and a lot of optimism towards europe. that made sense. i think that the issues of europe are far from cured. i don't think they can be cured. but i do think there's going to be large time gaps where investors hit the gas because the bureaucrats aren't necessarily hitting the brake. whether it's cyprus seems to be an issue. but it's strong. greece really isn't a huge issue but it really does represent kind of how the thinking goes for larger issues that europe has defaced. i found it fascinating, the dollar index closed down over a penny, even though had a strong gain on the week on the yen. it just goes to show you how that euro is so powerful this week and how in the last couple
. >> in the scramble to avoid the fiscal cliff, both the president's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy and the republican willingness for revenues could end up hurting charities and rely on the kindness of people with money. >> high income people tend to give very generous gifts. they may give a million dollar contribution to a capital campaign of a local hospital or a local art museum and a small number of donors at the high end that account for really big chunk of the charitable giving in this country and those are the folks that we'd be most impacted by this tax policy change. >> in fact, united way gives 15% of total donations, 500 million dollars a year, from those who give $10,000 or more. so, charities worry that any kind of tax increase on the wealthy could cut into their donations and that money from the wealthy would go to the government in taxes, instead of the charities as donations. >> yes, they aren't taxed on that income, then they're able to give all of that income to charities and nonprofits, back to their communities. >> after all, people have to pay their mortgages a
guess who. you, and of course the rest of us. we're all on the edge of this fiscal cliff. >> we don't think that raising tax rates is something that's good for this economy, that will help grow jobs. and so what we have said is there are ways for the federal government to have more revenue if we grow this economy and engage in tax reforms. >> every economist i respect says if you raise tax rates at this time -- in fact the president said that a couple years ago -- that it harms the economy. we're trying to help the economy. and so unless i can be convinced that raising tax rates will be beneficial, then obviously i think there's reason and grounds for my position. >> the truth is this country does not need to go through this fiscal cliff, which is fundamentally a huge tax increase and very little spending cuts. we're favoring a huge automatic tax increase that needs to be changed. >> bottom line we can't go off the fiscal cliff. democrats have harry reid. we have mitch mcconnell. get them in the room. no one gets all they want. if reagan and o'neill could do it, obama and boehner sh
into the debt market, and steven hammers says the fiscal cliff is y2k all over again. i want to start with stephen, because he's been looking at green mountain for a long time, but is it too hot to handle? even though it is popping after hours as a result of these earnings, it is a very hot stock to hold, is it not? >> the stocks do have consistent earnings, otherwise we wouldn't have it. but because we weight securities based on the risk, we call rise the risk. green mountain coffee has the lowest exposure to our large cap fund which is only a .03% exposure. so we don't have much of green mountain coffee. but it is consistent earnings. liz: okay. you know, the trade action of the day, larry, it looked pretty ugly today, but there were some pretty good winners. nonetheless, i like how you put this. you said there are nuisance headlines coming through, and a couple came in the form of, in essence, i guess coming out of d.c. that the talks have stalled as it pertains to the fiscal cliff. does that just cause the markets to dive? >> yeah, i think so. i mean, i'm actually -- i feel like i
from the desk with the couch. >> shepard: this is the fox report. avoiding the fiscal cliff. now the president and house republicans plan to hit the trail in search for support for their competing plans. plus, the u.s. ambassador, susan rice, meets with some of her toughest critics. and apparently they don't like what she has to say. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some we didn't get. more disturbed now than i was before. >> shepard: republican senators criticizing ambassador rice for her initial comments on the libya consulate attack. >> ambassador rice has no responsibility for collecting, analyzing and providing intelligence. >> shepard: tonight the ambassador responds. >>> plus, the people of egypt trying to avoid trading one dictator for another. fighting back against a president who gave himself new powers. tonight a potential crisis point as the leader tries to put himself above the law. and how will the u.s. handle this? >>> plus, the chances of winning are ridiculously low. but millions of us are still lining up for a shot at a rec
to the fiscal cliff, another group of folks expected to meet -- expecting to get hit hard. i'm talking about college savers. my next guest says many families will be worse off next year compared to this year. here to explain, founder and publisher of stayed. welcome back to the show. always great to have you. let's start with this idea. what is the fiscal cliff? what is it going to do if we take the budget cuts to college students aids? >> well, in two ways. the sequestration will cut all student aid but the pell grant by 8 percent across the board. the pell grant sheltered in 2013. come 2014 and also will be cut automatically by 8%. american opporunity tax credit expires the end of 2012 as well. gerri: it sounds like -- and here is your number right here. the fiscal cliff hits it could result in a percent cut in federal student aid. clearly people are going to seek higher costs for college. how can a company that if they have to do it on their own diamond cannot borrow money? >> they need to say before college. every dollar you save is a dollar less you have to borrow. search for scholarshi
the fiscal cliff is or what it means for their paycheck. >> they aren't worried. we'll see how numbers pan out. should be a big shopping weekend for the retailers. cyber-monday is around the corner. this is a big three days. it's funny. cyber-monday first came about when people didn't have high-speed internet. they would have to go to work and shop because it wasn't common. now it's common to have high-speed internet access at home and still you have cyber-monday. >> just as a point of note here, street signs are not allowed to say cyber-monday. i don't believe it. it's five bucks in the beer jar. you already owe 15 bucks. >> it's not "street signs." >> we play by a different set of rules here at post 9. >> we play by melissa's rules here at post 9. >> yours too, david. >> mine too. absolutely. we will be watching any number of retailers in terms of stocks. we'll see how some of the laggers do today. jcpenney. we'll be talking to the chief merchandise officer at sears later in the program. interesting to see given how poor the report was there. >> don't we have the former ceo of jcpenney o
of the fiscal cliff story. the federal reserve chairman spooking investors saying that the bank would not have infinite ability to address the fallout from the failure to avoid going over the so-called fiscal cliff. th dow jones industrial today losing seven points, s&p, nasdaq up fractionally. president obama returned to the white house after a three day trip to -- through southeast asia with stops in cambodia, thailand, and burma. the president takes part in a yearly presidential tradition. the parting of the national thanksgiving turkey in the rose garden. the prime minister of israel reiterating tonight that the cease-fire deal has been reached he told reporters that israel will take whatever action is necessary to fend its people but stated a diplomatic resolution would be preferred. joining as fox is national-security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations. let me turn to you first. is it your sense that a deal has been reached between hamas and israel? >> because israel has accomplished the objectives, take out the missiles in gaza. we think this iall about israel and ham and
-on-year, that is pretty good. >> what fiscal cliff, right now we're up by 12% from our 12 month low. in terms of a month long average that is pretty good, investors are not as frightened as they were some days ago regarding possibility of higher taxes, for capital gains and dividend. lou: they are still in prospect, all of it is. we have folks introducing bills to defer the whole thing for a year now. and the president is making nice, he is talking with ceos, seeming leally almost every othr day. >> market thinks we have a kinder and gently barack obama, who knows that might be correct. but who knows, business sales show no signs of improving sig 1/2 cannily, we'll issue watching what happens this week into start of the holiday shopping scene very closely. lou: at what point do we just acknowledge we're sort of you know bumbling along, economically, that the markets are outperforming the economy. and if we look at this right now, there is a project here that from index of leading economic an kate or to market's behavior that says we have good things in store here 6 months down the road. >> equity can li
a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatically. they split the post cereal division from ralcorp. the two trade separately. so you did have a company here that perhaps became a little more -- i wouldn't say vulnerable. not as if they were committed to selling. the board composition changed. you have had activist shareholder get on there. that was very
is pulled back. dagen: thank you. if congress is unable to prevent the fiscal cliff, our lawmakers could send the entire world economy into a recession. steve moore is here, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal." he joins us now from washington, d.c. will they prevent it, steve? >> the good news is, no one should ever listen to what they say. but, you know, these go sheesh and keep rolling on. my sources on capitol hill say that there is still a lot of gridlock there. the main thing, in my opinion, can they reach a deal on these taxes that does not require all of the requirements of business to go up? dagen: do think that happened, because again, there are so many taxes that we need to worry about, the lawmakers never fixed it for 2012. if they do not fix that, it will hit 33 million americans. the payroll tax cut. will that go away, because, again, it was temporary ones, temporary twice and it will still be a higher tax. >> im so glad you brought up the amt. nobody has really been focusing on this. that would be bigger than even extending the bush tax cuts. you are talkin
is that we get a fix for the fiscal cliff maybe early january, maybe we go over the cliff for a couple days. and i think the political pressure then to fix it would be intense because of the amt shock. normally 4.5 million pay pay alternative minimum taxes. if we didn't fix this on the 2012 income, what's due in 2013 will be additional taxes of several thousand dollars by an extra 28 million households. 33 million instead of 4.5 million on 2012 taxes. if you're going to file your tax return in january and you expect a refind, if you're in the 75,000 to 300,000 income bracket, forget about it if they don't fix that amt. so i think senators will get calls from a good portion of 28 billion households saying what are you doing raising my taxes. i never withheld. are you going to penalize me because you didn't fix what you fix every year? i think that amt shock is going to drive -- if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will drive a very, very fast fix. but then we'll just have a small bargain later this year. there's not going to be a grand war bargain. >> that could be the worst case scenario is j
the fiscal cliff, that once again put pressure on the markets. that's when things turned down yesterday. you'll see in europe, barely budging at this point. in france, the cac is up by about a point. the ftse is down by less than five points. in germany, the dax is up by less than three points. overnight in asia, you'll see that in japan, the nikkei was up by about .8 of a percent. the shanghai composite up by about 1%. the hang seng was up by 1.4%. oil prices also up slightly, up about 72 cents. not near the higher levels that we had seen because of the concerns in the middle east. 84.7 is where wti stands. the ten-year note is yielding 1.661%. we do have those numbers coming out. the dollar sup across the board. euro is at 1.28. gold prices this morning are indicated up just barely up by about $2.60. >>> let's go across the pond. ross westgate is standing by for us in london. ross, good morning to you. >> good morning, andrew. good to see you ahead of thanksgiving. becky called it. we're pretty flat here in europe. the dow jones being outpaced a little bit more. as you say, the focus very
of these folks are saying if we get a compromise as far as the fiscal cliff, by the end of the year this event means higher oil and gas prices, so there is a lot of indecision down here on the floor, but a volatile market with the middle east playing out. melissa: thank you so much. just in time for black friday, to survey highlights what we can expect consumers to spend this holiday season. rich edson has the story. >> americans will spend a little bit more this year, a just-released survey of holiday shopping says. the credit union national association of consumer federation of america said retail can expect a better holiday than last year, though not much better. >> our basic result is more optimistic than last year, the strongest results in the last four years, however still does not suggest a booming holiday season, but a continued improvement from the last few years. speak of a state college spending to increase from three and a half to 4% over 2011. the numbers behind that, they will spend less than last year. analysts say plenty of shoppers say they will spend less and never do. 12% ad
with the fiscal cliff. i want to go to your call for a special prosecutor. on benghazi, but, going to the fiscal cliff, the speaker making it very clear, that he's going to approach the negotiation of the white house, on the cliff, positively with some sense at least of accommodation, potential accommodation, if his terms are met. that is positive stuff, don't you think? >> well, it is positive. but, there's a lot of pressure, right now, and, of course, pressure is what you can use to take care bonn and make diamonds. this is the time to be bold. this is not the time to be defensive and i'm glad the speaker has come forward with a proposal but, the thing is, we ought to be taking the president's words and sticking them back with him. he wants everybody to pay their fair share. let's do it. let's have capital gains, 15%. let's have income tax, 15%, gift taxes, 15%, let's make sure that warren buffett finally starts paying at least as much as his secretary, in the percentage, and, what has been proposed, here, by the president, will not have warren buffett paying the same as his secretary, in perc
be worried, in takes two to tango or to send us over the fiscal cliff. but only party we're talking about right now is the g.o.p., and they are. neil: why are they doing this? i know a close election, but, it is not as if they were just wiped off the face of the earth? what are they doing? >> i think there are a couple things here, dan and i were talking, if they go ahead, and go along with this, then they are setting a tone and putting themselves at risk for midterm elections, they can't afford to lose at this pointolitically. but i think they know, that if theyment long-term tax solutions, a simplification of the tax code if that i want to talk about entitlement reform they have to concede a bit. i think one thing that could help both sides if we had a well the more transparency in this conversation so it is not just republicans that are strong armed here. neil: you know, dan, you are closer to this than i will be, but i have to say between this concession of republicans to entertain what cou be more substantial revenue hikes, so say nothing now of embracing the idea of suzanne rice --
because of the fear of the fiscal cliff and higher taxes. in some cases they are laying off, those are troublesome things. even if they resolve the fiscal cliff, higher taxes will mean less spending in the economy and less reasons to invest and hire more people. melissa: i don't even think resolving the fiscal cliff would make that much of a difference because businesses still face uncertainty scare them of making decisions. first it was about obamacare, and they were so upset and didn't want to spend any money. and then the election, they still didn't want to do anything. resolving the fiscal cliff will not make them feel any better because the resolution will be higher taxes. >> absolutely. and that is where businesses throw out, chamber of commerce, is ask why they are not doing something, it is uncertainty. they ar paid to manage in uncertainty. there's just a lot of nonsense. the economy is not moving along very well. the discussions will not resolve the fundamental problem from exploding entitlements and mammoth increase in spending imposed on america and now want americans t
-called fiscal cliff. let's listen in. >> it would be good for our children's future and i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. but the place where we already have, in theory at least, complete agreement, right now, is on middle class taxes. and as i've said before, we've got two choices. if congress does nothing, every family in america ll see their tacks automatically go up at the beginning of next year. starting january 1st, every family in america will see their taxes go up. a typical middle class family of four would see its income taxes go up by $2200. $2200 out of people's pockets. that means less money for buying grocery, less money for filling prescriptions, less money for buying diapers. it means a tougher choice between paying the rent and paying tuition and middle class families just can't afford that right now. by the way, businesses can't afford it either. yesterday i sat down with some small business owners who stressed this point. economists predict that if taxes go up on
-shortened week the markets moved in tandem for the fiscal cliff. up more midweek. the markets continued to climb on friday. stunning accusations that one of america's iconic companies hewlett-packard which acquired autonomy last year for $11 billion is accusing autonomy of what it called serious improprieties in its bookkeeping and inflating its own value. meg witman says the company lied about how much it was worth. >> we believe there's a willful effort on the part of certain members of autonomy management to mislead shareholders when they were a publicly held companies and mislead buyers including hp and we stand by the forensic review we have seen. as you know, we have turned it over to the fcc. >> we are shocked. we have been pretty ambushed by this today. first we heard about it was a press release and we refute them. they are factually incorrect. we'd like to learn more about them. i'm afraid the details haven't been shared with us. >> reporter: autonomy ceo said the company followed normal accounting practices. hp took an $8.8 billion charge this quarter. the stock has lost 50% in 2012.
the 23 year olds, look, are you going to stop spending or cut back because of the fiscal cliff. i'm out there enough already. i can't even go to that level of being out there. >> you can't? >> no, i can't. i can't. i'm a fixture at every mall in the country. this mall of america there was a guy. mike didn't work initially. you handled that so well. the mike didn't work initially for mall of america. >> i threw to him on friday. while you're shopping you still managed to watch us. amazing. >> and miss you? it was just like you didn't skip a beat. like you had actually been to a mall. >> you knew i had never been to a mall. >> i know you have been to a mall. >> what mall? >> time warner center is that a mall? >> that counts as a mall. >> i've been in there. there's a j. crew there. >> yes. yes, there is. i think whole foods also had a big week. >> i do shopping for the night before i head home. >> it's antidotal. it's antidotal. it was supposed to be bad. it wasn't bad. that's my take away. i don't want to deviate from that. i saw an upgrade today. restoration. all of these companies have
the brickings. >> do you tnk it is bad for the economy over all. we are in a fiscal cliff and rough waters here and now this to deal with? >> i think it could be bad for the econom they have the merchandise and this is not going to affect thanksgiving shopping season and christmas most likely. but look at history. 1948 we had five million workers on strikend it crippledhe economy. the taft hartley act brought back the boom. that is it breaking of the unions and created the boom that eisenhower had. if these uon heads go forward. this could hurt t economy. >> tracey, you made the point about the retailers, it could hurt the consumer spending as well the economy needs that right now. and economist looking to the holiday shopping season to get big numbers out. >> cheril, i am a last minute shopper and i disagree that they have everything in for the season. stuff comes in down to the wire in so many small businesses if you don't have what i am looking for when i generally geout there, i am not buying it that hurts the over all economy. and look. at the unionshat are you doing? people are dying for
. >>> president obama meets with small business owners today to promote his solution to the fiscal cliff. the deadline is now 35 days away. the president is holding more events tomorrow and friday. "new york times" reports this morning that a budget deal could reduce the tax deduction millions pay on their mortgage interest. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, charlie, and norah. the president and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone over the weekend. top aides in the house and senate tell us that negotiations at this point are just taking place between the president's staff and speaker boehner's staff. that's because any deal that involves raising tax revenue is going to face its biggest challenge in the republican-led house. top republicans returning from thanksgiving recess urged the president to make the first offer in fiscal cliff negotiations. and they expressed a new openness to raising tax revenue, if democrats agree to make cuts to strengthen medicare and medicaid. >> elections come and go. and when they g
about whether the consumer has any of the same concerns about the fiscal cliff or anything else. >> it was a tick up that was going upward. and it came off a little bit the initial readings. so maybe a little bit of cliff is sinking into the consumer. but when we checked on on four key metrics, wages, unemployment, housing and what was the fourth one, debt levels, consumer is in better shape this year than last year. >> what is the chance that right now we haven't lost confidence among consumers and so people are out there this thanksgiving weekend buying, maybe next weekend they're buying, but as the fiscal cliff conversation really hits a ahead in mid-december, that somehow confidence starts to drift. >> seems like an upper income kind of concern given the volatility of the stock market. mass market, as long as they're living pay dlek to paycheck, they're buying for their kids. christmas doesn't stop because of what's happening in washington. >> i think consumer sentiment can be fragile. it's curious that it hasn't sunk in more now and maybe that's because it has not been a na
congresso spare them on any deaof the fiscal cliff. this on top of unions everywhere flexing their muscles. airports, retail stores, hospitals. it's time to say this gravy train is over. dave, when you have? reporter: all the excesses of government and the phony rules and regulations and useless rules, these unions thre on that. the postal employees union is extraordinary. federal and postal employees are struggling during these hard times. no other group has been asked to financially contribute in the way that they have. we know that they are making twice as much of a comparable job and the private workforce. >> there is no gravy train left. america it is not in the 50s anymore. companies along the lines of this, they can't handle the higher pay rate. there is no future for private and public jobs growing in the sector. charles: in the private sector it is all about this. if they had a really from the white house and national labor relations board. it seems like a favorable media right now. they are on the attack. i don't know if this will backfire or not. holding up traffic at lax and th
holmes. you'll be back with me later this hour. we're going to talk about the fiscal cliff and how one leading republican may be ready actually to break ranks with his party to get a deal done. so we'll see them just a little bit later. >>> small businesses struggling to recover after superstorm sandy. we'll introduce you to one business owner who is trying her best to stay afloat. [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year
and talk about the fiscal cliff. the day after day. lawmakers hike their taxes. one of them is here to join me and explain that. more "money" coming up next. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. p@ [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. i have obligations. cute tobligations, but obligatio.ing. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large profession invesrs choosese ishares for their etf. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. melissa: the days are flying by. have you noticed that there is no solu
over the entitlement programs should be waged after the new year once the fiscal cliff issue has been settled. >>> six minutes past the hour, new storms rolling into the northwest this morning. and that could cause dangerous flooding. alexandra steele is live in atlanta for us. what's going on? >> hey, good morning to you guys. we've got one storm that's gone and one storm that's a massive storm incoming. so let's start with this, all you guys in new york city had snow, for sure, but right now we certainly don't. this has all moved offshore. this was just the rain, but what was left behind? actually black ice there this morning. places like new jersey, six inches of snow. chester, new jersey, five. you can see sunbury, pennsylvania, three. 2 1/2 in mill brooke. the hudson valley and portions of connecticut are seeing black ice as a factor. take it slow, especially the elevated surfaces with temperatures so cold. story number one. story number two, a mammoth storm, this is the water vapor. what you need to see with this is look at this huge trough off the coast. all this moisture is po
return to capitol hill tomorrow to try to work on a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff you've heard about a time or two. >> clayton: yeah, peter doocy live in washington this morning with the latest on where these negotiations stand and we can expect, i guess, tomorrow, peter, they get back to work after thanksgiving? >> reporter: that's right, clayton, so far just one meeting we know about the small, but bipartisan group of lawmakers trying to speteer the country away from the fiscal cliff and represent their parties. right after the bat after the first meeting speaker boehner told us he's ready to agree to new revenue in a deal, but the deal needs to be balanced. >> to show to your seriousness we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. and while we're going to continue that revenue on the table. it's going to be incumbent for my colleagues to show the american people that we're serious about cutting spending and solving our fiscal dilemma. >> democrats, obviously, control the white house and the senate, but they still need the republican-le
. >> the fiscal cliff sparks talks of compromise on capitol hill. >> without a deal spending consults and tax increases will kick in at year's end likely sending the country into another recession. >>> several republicans back away from a tax increase. >> if congress does nothing, which congress has gotten pretty good at doing these days we'll go over the fiscal cliff. >> we have to show the world we're adults. the election's over. president obama won. >>> it's a big weekend for shopping. it isn't over yet. today is cyber monday. the biggest day for online sales. >> shoppers are expected to spend $1 billion 1/2 today. >> and some like to shop in bunny slippers. >> and fret mohammed morsi granting himself extra powers. >> sending the country's stock market into free fall. >> buy a ticket for this wednesday's powerball lottery, you could win in the megaball. >> bradshaw with the touchdown. >> giants tommenate. >> officially a time-out. >> cheerleaders shave their head to support the coach diagnosed with leukemia. >> and all that matters -- >> suddenly changes into
, but other way, the republicans are in motion over the fiscal cliff. the democrats are not moving. good morning, everyone, several leading republicans say they will put more tax revenue on the table. that's a shift. warren buffett says raise tax rates on incomes over a half million dollars, that's a shift. but the president and democrats are not moving and they still say raise tax rates on the rich. on-line shopping, a very big winner and very big for retailers. 13% better than last year overall. today, on-line sales may run close to 2 billion dollars. will it last through the holidays? we've got another north african economy in absolute chaos. egypt torn by rioting after morsi takes dictatorial powers. they really need our money now. watch out, everybody, "varney & company" is about to begin. get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement peopl who are paid on sary, not commission. they'll get st
of progress in congress's fiscal cliff negotiations. yeah, i will believe it when i see it. after tumbling in early trading the dow rebounded more than 200 points, closing up 10 points. see what happens when congress stops screwing things up? i don't know. we'll see. >>> disney joining a wave of companies increasing their annual stock dividend. the company will raise the stock cash payout by 25% to 75 cents a share. disney is trading up slightly of a hours on the news. >>> shares of costco leaped more than 6%. the company beat expectations for november same-store sales and announced it will pay out a special stock dividend, $7 per share. >>> now to our top story tonight t could be a total game-changer for pensions and municipal creditors. the nation's biggest public employee pension fund, calpers, is preparing to sue the bankrupt city of san bernardino, california, since that city stopped making payments to the pension fund. calpers says the city already owes the fund almost $7 million since filing for bankruptcy in august, on august 1st. now this is a first. i got to tell you. no city has
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